Friday, May 17, 2024

Re: Bk Patient

Thanks to the many people who wrote addressing the problem with my patient.

I am posting the responses. Unfortunately, she is now struggling with an

ulcer on her heel, plus difficulties with finding a physical therapy center,

and transportation to doctor offices, etc. I want to get her to wear the

prosthesis, even if she is only sitting, but much of her prosthetic

training will probably be put on hold until the ulcer resolves. Wish her

luck, everyone! Paula Martinek, C.O.

I have a very heavy BK patient. She is about 60 years, diabetic, weighs

appox 250 to 300 lbs. The residual limb is not a bad shape, however, her

thigh above the knee is extremely fleshy and flabby. (Circumference of upper

thigh is 29 inches). My problem is finding shrinkers and socks that do not

roll down her leg. My other problem is suspending the prostheses. I have

been using a neoprene suspension sleeve now because I do not think she would

tolerate a thigh lacer, because of weight, bulk, and difficulty of

application. She is now able to stand with assistance, but unable to walk

more than a step or two. I do not think she will be using her leg for more

than transfers, but would like for her to have it for these purposes. If

anyone has any experience with fitting a patient such as this, I would be

happy to hear from you. Sincerely, Paula Martinek.

I have a patient who must weigh 350 lbs. We found the ALPS suspension

sleeve (it’s silicone) to be a big help with severely obese patients…. it

seems to stay out and not roll down.

As for shrinker and socks, you might try coolmax socks (don’t know the brand

name)– they are more elastic than most socks. And if the shrinker rolls

down, you can modify a shrinker by sewing dacron straps to it and attaching

those to some type of waist belt. Not an elegant solution, but it works.

Good luck,

Bill Lifford, C.P.

have a similar patient and have had great success fitting with 3S,

namely a 9mm alpha liner. To keep the socks and shrinkers up I use a

skin adhesive, used for TED hose.

Lane Ferrin CP

My best success had been to use a silicone suction suspension, for the

following reasons:

1) The silicone suspension is easy for a person of bulk to don. Merely step

into the prosthesis…and, if there is excessive redundant tissue, a lanyard

system can be used so the patient pulls the tissue in.

2) Choose the appropriate size ICEROSS or equal liner and trim the top along

a very wavy line. By trimming the wave (like a sine wave) up to an inch or

better, you essentially increase the circumference of the top of the liner a

relatively enormous amount.

Try to keep the top of the liner above the top of the socket as high as

possible–at least a couple inches with ICEROSS…four is

better…but…….You just don’t want the liner to slide down into the

socket…

This approach has worked well for several patients that have a very abrupt

and large difference in the dimension of their thigh just above the knee.

Hope this helps a bit…

JTA

J. THOMAS ANDREW, CP

ABILITY PROSTHETIC SYSTEMS, INC.

SLC, UT

Don’t use sleeve….it’ll just be a pain for her to don and doff. A waistbelt

would be better, but cumbsome. Why not use a locking liner?

As for shrinkers, you may have to use a waist belt to keep it from rolling or

try

“IT STAYS” used for compression hose stockings.

Chad Marquis, CPO

Regards your BK patient, how about an OWW Alpha Locking liner Xlg. I am

wearing one, and it is wonderful. Jeff

ALPS makes the EZ Sleeve which is very stretchy and is probably better than

the neoprene sleeve. Of course there is always the wait belt!

Mark Benveniste CP

I had a similar patient last year. 200-210lbs. I tried sleeves and cuffs

nothing worked till I tried an Alpha locking liner. I took a cast of her

leg end of stump to as high on her thigh as possible using Delta lite

casting tape. I then filled the cast with caliber foam just for rigidity. I

then pulled a stockinette over the mold and stretched an Xlarge Alpha 6mm

locking liner over it and let it set overnight to retain the shape, which

it did. Worked great for my patient so it might be worth a try. If you have

any questions about working with the Alpha Liner call Ohio Willow Wood and

they can help.

Stump bandaging is maybe the best way to go with this type of

patient…shrinkers will continue to give you problems in my opinion.

I have used 3-S suspension and PTK/PTS BK’s with these types before, with

some success. These negate the difficulty with rolling socks etc. (I have

one similar lady whose socket will hold about 7 litres of water – a little

under 1/2 gallon!)

Good Luck!

[email protected]

Have you considered PTS suspension. I have found this to work better in

fitting fleshy thighs.

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